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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2007-12-07 11:09 pm

Deliverance (112)

AKA the one with Lord Avon, Mad Meegat, and Apollo 18. ; :-)

Nitpicks (let's get them over with)
They landed on the moon in 1969 so how come the SFX people don't know what a liveable planet looks like from orbit? People need water to live and it would be blue from space, but Cephlon looks like Mars.
Meegat's people speak English or whatever the rebels speak (though I'm not sure Jenna's captors do). Star Trek had translators, HHGTTG babel fish, and Farscape had translator microbes. It seems that B7 needs something like that so I'm going with the microbes from the Farscape galaxy via a wormhole or two. Well hey, they might also explain how Avon, Vila, and Gan understood how to activate Mission Control so easily.
A chemical rocket would take a lot longer than 500 years to reach another star. Eh, maybe it was just the next system and it was really, really close.

Marryatt
I liked what I saw of Marryatt and the very succinct way in which his character was shown and another little piece of Federation society was revealed: deserters' families are sold into slavery on a frontier world. From their point of view, it's an effective deterrent and another way to tame new worlds, and from ours yet another reason for us to want Blake to take them down. Travis's reaction to Marryatt's death and the fate of his family also shows us that he has a vestigial conscience which is quickly suppressed.

Ensor
Ensor seems sympathetic at the start--"I'm a very nervous pilot." --but his wanting to kill one of his rescuers and leave several of them on Cephlon to get irradiated so that he can to save his father had me cheering his death. Bastard. Of course, he spent most of his life on Aristo with an irascible father, Orac, and some fish of unknown temper, so he would be severely unsocialised and lacking in empathy for anyone but his father. That still doesn’t make me like him though.

Vila and Gan and rocket science
Both of them seem pretty up on the technology of Mission Control--and Avon isn't surprised. Where did they acquire knowledge of ancient tech, or are they clever enough to understand it at a glance? Vila would have acquired a lot of knowledge of electronic security systems, but where did Gan pick his up? All three of them immediately begin talking about manual overrides, output control, alpha scales, and taking it to level two. I've always thought Vila was a lot brighter than he likes to let on, but so is Gan here--and Avon accepts it without question--and they all work very well together.

Vila and Gan and friendship
I love the looks these two give each other when Avon is having his ego inflated, and the way they stand together at the end looking amused. I think this episode, followed by 'Spacefall', has the most evidence for their friendship which features a lot in fandom.

The God Blake?
I'm not entirely sure why Blake would be considered a god. Who is supposed to see him that way? Certainly not his argumentative crew, and probably not the Federation citizens who know about his first trial, his recantation, and the trumped-up charge at his second one, regardless of how they view his cause.

Orac
100,000,000 for the bloody-minded little paperweight? Daylight, well, space robbery!

Hitty-fighty
This might be Gan's best episode. He gets to have some fisticuff fun--and even be funny:
VILA: There's hordes of them! And they don't seem to like us much!
GAN: How can you tell?
Vila is really not good at it though, yelling repeatedly and giving the show away when he's grabbed. He makes up for it in Mission Control though with his competent and knowledgeable techiness..

Meegat
I wonder what she did with herself afterwards. Became a priest who bored everyone silly with ceremonies and reminiscences about the Lord Avon and his faithful followers?

This isn't a favourite but it does have some nice character bits in it. It feels like a standalone episode but when you see 'Orac' you realise it's really part one of a two-parter; not something done much back then as far as I know.

And now that I'm fairly up-to-date, I'm taking myself off to bed.

[identity profile] zoefruitcake.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
100,000,000 for the bloody-minded little paperweight? Daylight, well, space robbery!

LOL! indeed!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That thing was never worth its batteries.

Red Light Special

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
In the Lovejoy books, Lovejoy always thinks of historical sums of money in terms of the antiques they would buy, and since the episode "Gambit" uses "ten-credit touch" as an accepted phrase, Orac cost the same amount as 10 million acts of budget prostitution.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Which make Orac worth 10 Liberators and bundled crew. And he wasn't.

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it really doesn't make sense unless Servalan knew that Orac invented the internet could communicate with other computers. But then, it doesn't make sense that she would know that, so . . .

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps she did, but Orac hardly even did that. He read the System's ones including Zen and could obviously take them over, but did he ever do a decent hack on a Federation one? The one time he made one do calculations for him, he was so clumsy he gave them all away.

Someone postulated that he wanted to belong to the Federation and therefore in effect worked to that end unless his own perspex was in danger.

Third Prize THREE Weeks in Philadelphia

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
vilakins said:
Which make Orac worth 10 Liberators and bundled crew. And he wasn't

Perhaps if Liberator could have been delivered vacant, it would have been worth 100 million credits.

Re: Third Prize THREE Weeks in Philadelphia

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Pest control is cheap!

My Chemical Rocket

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
AKA the one with Lord Avon, Mad Meegat, and Apollo 18.

Apollo Clips Now!

Re: My Chemical Rocket

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Avon should have stripped his anorak off to reveal a fancy mission waistcoat.
kernezelda: (B7 Liberator)

[personal profile] kernezelda 2007-12-07 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I always took Avon saying that to Blake about godhood as referring to Blake's own self-appointed, messianic crusade to save the masses. Certainly, Blake was obsessed enough about smashing the Federation that only a few episodes later, he's willing to endanger and severely harm millions of people by destroying Star One.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense: he's certainly trying to make decisions for everyone. I've always assumed that if he won, there wouldn't be any democracy involved.

[identity profile] seileach67.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, with the tiny quibble that there are hints that although Blake may have appointed himself the savior of the masses, there are others eager to grant him that title--remember in "Voice from the Past", when Gov. LeGrand is trying to convince Blake to become the leader of the "triumvirate", she refers to needing someone whom all factions will accept as leader, in her words "a messiah." That to me indicates that probably a large number of rebels were in the habit of putting Blake on at least a semi-divine pedestal.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
So much for the trumped-up charges then!

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps the rebels figured that if you're going to appeal to Zeus, it's just Ganymede's bad luck.

[identity profile] san-valentine.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
'Deliverance' was the first episode of B7 to really make an impact on me. I was aware than Mum was watching this new sci-fi show, and saw some bits and pieces without it really sinking in.
'Deliverance' really caught my imagination and I was hooked. I particularly remember Avon in his silver anorak. I guess it's partly because the other crew members were all wearing variations of the Liberator cagoule, and only Avon had the fab silver anorak, and also partly because he looked so good in it.
I was 11 at the time, and at an impressionable age. I've had a weakness for men with dark brown hair and eyes ever since.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww! I saw some as a kid and I immediately loved Vila--and Cally; I think I was intrigued by her alienness. I did see the last ep and I remember that by then I loathed Avon. I was rather surprised to find him so likeable in S1 and S2.

Hitty-fighty

[identity profile] mossymermaid.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
lolz

I love your analysis of the episode. Hitty-fighty

;-)

Vila wins, of course, and nice to see Gan do something. Their friendship was touching, while it lasted of course.

Vila is coming shortly with some cocktails and to waft some lemsip at you.

Re: Hitty-fighty

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Vila knows that alcohol works well on the cough impulse. And those clever hands are very good at comforting back rubs. Mmmmm...

[identity profile] the-summoning-d.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This episode amuses me greatly; heh, Lord Avon. And tech-knowledge!Vila. You know, until about six months ago I had never seen the start of this episode. We used to tape B7 (Back in the day of videos), but we were late home that particular night and missed the start. I only saw it when we got the DVDs.
I liked Maryatt as well. In fact, I'm currently writing a fic where he survives instead of Ensor junior.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The eps shown here in 2001 were severely and stupidly chopped to fit into 40 minutes, and they removed a lot of essential conversation which often rendered later scenes puzzling. I used to go on line afterwards and look up the transcripts, then send the missing bits to my friend who was also watching.

Said friend is now faintly appalled that I'm now a fan and actually am so nerdy as to write fanfic. Discussing it's all right but that is Going Too Far.

I want to read Maryatt surviving instead of Junior. Doooo eeeet!

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Avon's comment about Blake as a god is another of his digs at Blake. Blake, as he increasingly does in later S1 and S2, refuses to rise to the bait and instead forces Avon to look at the real issue--the attraction and discomfort of power. At which point Avon, naturally, walks away from the whole discussion.

Blake and Avon are fairly ratty to each other in this episode. Towards the beginning, when Blake asks if Avon is sure about going down to the planet, Avon says (paraphrased): "Why, do you think I'll do a better job than you would?" Poor Blake can't win for losing--even when he shows concern, Avon twists it into a power struggle. Then Blake gets a little revenge in later, when Avon says he's going back to look for Jenna. Blake's "I think you'd better," is delivered with such anger, as though what happened were Avon's fault.

Avon's behavior towards Meegat makes a fascinating contrast. He's very gentle with her, and he clearly enjoys being worshipped, but somehow it makes him less arrogant. He's able to step back from his usual ferocious self-defense and say, with apparent sincerity, that he's not much of a reward for all Meegat's waiting. It says a lot about Avon that it takes a Meegat to get his defenses down.

Moving on to other stuff: the business about the two Ensors' name was handled confusingly. For the first half of the discussion between Servalan and Travis, it's "Ensor and his son," then halfway through, they start talking about "Ensor and his father." It makes me wonder if it was a mistake, somehow--if they weren't meant to have the same name, but there was a screwup through a hasty script revision or something. Or if Jacqueline Pearce just got the name wrong during the take and everybody decided it wasn't worth a reshoot!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, those two are sniping throughout this ep. I suppose Blake is so hard on Avon when he loses Jenna because of what happened to Cally on Centero, but also at this point Blake and Jenna seem to have an easy and affectionate friendship going on. I'd like to have seen some concern about sending them all back into a radioactive environment.

Perhaps Avon regards assumptions of equality as threatening. He certainly seems kinder to those weaker than him (Meegat, Nebrox, Piri for a while) so I wonder what the basis of his insecurity is. I do rather tend to the idea that he was a Beta promoted for his brilliance and doesn't feel he quite fits socially. He doesn't have the easy confidence that Blake and Jenna have.

As for the Ensors, I think they changed from 'and father' to 'and son' to show which one they were talking about. It's a problem with family surnames, but I can't imagine Servalan or Travis referring to Bill Ensor and Ted Ensor when they don't seem to have first names themselves. ;-)

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a problem with family surnames

*facepalm* I wasn't thinking of Ensor as a surname, for some reason, but of course it must be. It's a bit confusing to have some characters whom we know only by surname (like Servalan and Travis) and others who really only have one name (like Cally).

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and in re: Avon, I'm convinced that he was bullied relentlessly at school by all the real Alphas. So he learned to be guarded and suspicious, to use words as weapons, and to trust no one who might be capable of hurting him emotionally or physically.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
[nods] It makes sense, and also why he both seems to be easier with Vila, and also likes to needle him about his grade.

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
vilakins said: I can't imagine Servalan or Travis referring to Bill Ensor and Ted Ensor

To die will be Bill and Ted Ensor's Awfully Big Adventure!

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Bill and Ted, Peter Pan, and B7 all in one joke. It's a geek trifecta!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2007-12-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But something anyone with any budget can do!