vilakins: Comic-style Vila holding a spork (spork)
Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2005-04-25 09:47 pm

BSG

I just watched BSG: Tigh me up, Tigh me down. Bloody hell, doesn't it occur to any of these people to have someone check the ghastly Gaius's test results? I'd think it would be basic security procedure. [rolls eyes] I hope they get rid of him soon. Compared to him, Jool was a joy and a delight.

I have to laugh every time I think of the gods of Kobol though. I can see why the Cylons might reject the whole idea; they probably prefer 4GLs.

Sorry. Off to bed now.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2005-04-27 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
How are they gonna check on them when he seems to be the only one who understands what he's doing? There don't seem to be many science-types who survived.

I can never decide whether I love or hate Gaius. Which in itself is kind of fun.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-04-27 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but they're all so paranoid, they suspect each other of being Cylons, and they don't assign anyone to 1) assist the creep or 2) witness his results? Why trust him so completely when it's only been a short time since they thought he was a Cylon agent?

I outright loathe him. When he did that smug little smile at the end, I longed to smash his face in.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2005-04-27 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
What I keep wondering is why nobody goes, "Oh, my god, this man is insane!" and suddenly thinks better of giving him the responsibility for, you know, the survival of the human race and all. Ron Moore -- have you been listening to his commentary tracks? You can download them from Sci-Fi's website -- does a reasonably good job, though, of pointing out how he manages to cover for the talking-to-invisible-people thing and maybe come across as simply eccentric, rather than batshit crazy. But I still keep expecting somebody to point out that he doesn't seem to be quite firing on all thrusters.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-04-27 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
There don't seem to be many science-types who survived.

There must be some geeks. How many survived? [looks it up] According to Gaius in that ep, 47,905. OK, I'd say at least 500 people capable of assisting him and checking his work. Unless repelled and driven out by his unsavoury habits, of course. :-P

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2005-04-27 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Scattered all over the fleet and with different areas of expertise, but, OK, point taken. They almost certainly could have found somebody to check over his results if they'd put their minds to it.

I think the real answer is that he's given strong indications of wanting to work alone, and they're putting their trust in him because he's not just a genius, he's a Famous Genius. He's sort of like Caprica's Stephen Hawking or something. And these people are desperate to believe he can hand them the answers they need if they just leave him alone to get on with it.

[identity profile] daiseechain.livejournal.com 2005-04-29 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ye Gods. I hadn't even noticed the Gods of Kobol joke. Went completely over my head till you pointed it out. Good one.

I like Gaius because he's so thorougly unlikeable. He's a good example of what I was talking about with my response to your PKW review, about people staying sane in insane situations. Gaius was already immoral and unethical to begin with, and now he's being driven insane as well.

I also have a feeling he's there to be redeemed. Being as the show is as much a metaphor for faith as it is, I think we're watching Gaius being primed for major salvation, although whether by his own people or by the Cylons I can't yet tell. But I think we have to watch him sink to an all time low, in order to see how much that redemption will mean for him. Like Spike on Buffy, or Garibaldi on Babylon 5, however with both those and other tv examples we are normally watching the degradation/redemption process from outside. With Gaius, we are right there with him as it happens.

You are right about checking the results, but not only is he one of their precious few science resources (who I suspect are stretched just a little thin keeping things running), but they also just exonerated him in a trial by fire. I thought that was the point of Six's speech to Gaius at the close of 'Six Degrees of Separation'. His collegues aren't likely to bring the point up again any time soon.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-04-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That's a bit like saying that a criminal didn't rob a particular bank so he's lily-white. It's a puzzle that he's clear of suspicion when Adama isn't. BTW I never saw the original, so it's all new to me.

the show is ... a metaphor for faith

You're right! The Cylons are strangely interested in religion, and it does explain what was puzzling me before: them being both fascinated by humans and intent on killing them all. So to them, humans have failed God and they are the version which won't. I wonder where they got their monotheism from; the humans believe in a pantheon.

[identity profile] daiseechain.livejournal.com 2005-04-29 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
btw, why does Vila have a Spork?

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-04-30 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sporks are for when you're angry, plus they're funny, and I wanted a spork icon. I used the scene where he's staring horrified at the knife he stabbed a Cygnus Alpha priest with, and changed it into a spork. :-P