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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2011-12-04 07:16 pm

Wetas of unusual size

If you don't like insects, just pass on by, nothing to see here.

Wetas are what Weta Workshop is named after, and I rather like them. I had a pet one as a kid and fed it on apples and buried it in the garden in an old chocolate box when it died.

A couple of years ago I posted about a dead weta one of the cats brought in (scroll to the last picture). That was a normal-sized one like the one I had but this is a wetapunga, a giant weta from Little Barrier Island. Apparently it's the biggest insect on the planet (the species, not that particular one); they weigh in up to 72g, as much as a sparrow. It's apparently an example of something called island gigantism, and the genus name, Deinacrida, is Greek for terrible grasshopper which amuses me. The Tyrannosaurus Rex of the insect world.

The icon BTW is of Brian the Spider from Blake's 7, a much bigger kettle of fish eggs which probably should have been called Brianette.

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[personal profile] corvuscornix 2011-12-04 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the look of those! I imagine they could be quite interesting as pets and not just for space-happy felt-tip artists either Did you catch your pet one "in the wild" or ar they sold in pet shops?

I wonder if the giant ones are considered the largest insect by weight? There are some HUGE stick-insects in Borneo (I had the opportunity to go there on a field trip when I was doing a course in Tropical Ecology, and we got to see one that was about 35cm long, not including legs or antennae.)

Terrible Grasshopper! :-D
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[personal profile] corvuscornix 2011-12-06 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
True, it would probably not be a very lucrative business selling a common native species! :-) I've known several people who have kept various pet shop-bought insects, but they were of course all exotic species for this country. Though in general most people here are also biased against species that are not either mammals or birds.
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[personal profile] corvuscornix 2011-12-07 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
We have two common species of snake here, only one of which is mildly poisonous, and I see both quite frequently in summer. And although I've always liked snakes too I've noticed that when coming upon one (or something that looks or moves like one) unexpectedly, like nearly stepping on one, my body tends to react with what feels like a deeply rooted reflex avoidance instinct, jumping away almost before I can register why. (Though once I've realised, I've no problems staying close and admiring them!) That makes me wonder if fear of snakes may not be at least partly an evolutionary thing. (I've seen similar reactions in animals like dogs and horses.)

Though with insects and spiders etc I think the alien-ness is probably more important. It also makes them seem more unpredictable, perhaps. Though of course "alien" is entirely dependent on perspective. I suppose that if there are intelligent insects out there, they may regard the "inverted" internal-skeleton body-plan of vertebrates as the truly weird one. "They have all they're muscles on the outside! Gross!" :-)
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[personal profile] corvuscornix 2011-12-11 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Instincts like that are really interesting - like evolutionary post-cards from a very different past, in this case one where reacting in a certain way to a snake actually made a real difference to whether a creature was likely to survive and reproduce... Cool.

Hah, yes, I think I remember that story! Messing about with points of view can be a lot of fun. :-)
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[personal profile] capri0mni 2011-12-04 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's adorable! What's Greek for "adorable"?

We don't get grasshoppers that bit where I live. But when I lived in (one of) the (semi-rural) forests of southeast New York, grasshoppers would come into the house in the summer, and I'd have to coax them out of the tub before I drew a bath. They always struck me as rather intelligent and curious creatures.
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[personal profile] trixieleitz 2011-12-05 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
We occasionally get small weta inside the house - I assume they accidentally ride in on clothing or something. I think they're rather sweet; I pop a small box down next to them, they crawl right in to the nice comforting darkness, and I take them outside where I'm sure they're much happier :)

ETA: and right after your entry I found a link to this blog entry with some interesting criticism of the news coverage.
Edited 2011-12-05 08:13 (UTC)
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[personal profile] trixieleitz 2011-12-05 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*goes to look*
Wow, yes, he didn't mince his words, did he?! That was a bit on the nose, especially as we don't know how much of the distortion was due to Moffett's actual claims, and how much was due to shoddy reporting.
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[personal profile] gwendraith 2011-12-05 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
"The Tyrannosaurus Rex of the insect world". Hehe, yes. The giant weta is a bit creepy for me but I do like our small green grasshoppers :)

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! That is one giant-ass bug! :)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
They're very cool! There's even a special breeding program for them so they can repopulate more islands.

[identity profile] morzsa.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
I remember seeing a documentary about the giant wetas, and that was the point when I became an evolutionist. I was like 8 then. :)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's very cool!

[identity profile] vann.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
And they say evolution isn't real. Dang, look at the size of that thing! :D

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's mainly Americans who have a down on evolution. Don't a lot of states refuse to teach it? :-P

Wetas deserve a Workshop named after them. I even have one carved from horn which I bought at a garage sale; everyone else thought it was hideous.

[identity profile] ultrapsychobrat.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
There was one shown on the web new tonight--they're wonderful.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
That one's been making the news, so you saw the same one. :-)

[identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
This insect looks a bit like a giant armored grasshopper indeed. I am not scared of it,it reminds me of our "chroust" beetle(May bug?).:-)I also liked keeping one in a matchbox like a child.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Mine lived in a large jar with lots of plants to help it feel at home. :-)

[identity profile] threeoutside.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I so love that thing! You should stop over here to see more pictures:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3972007/Worlds-biggest-ever-insect-found-called-the-Weta-Bug.html

I got that link on the I heart bugs website, btw, fairly new, always interesting, lots of people from all kinds of professions other than biologist, heart bugs, it appears. Very er, heartening!

http://i-heart-bugs.livejournal.com/

And I'm sorry for the ugly URLs but I can't get LJ to accept my html for some reason.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's the same guy in my photo! He's world-famous. :-)

Yeah, LJ's having/has had yet another DDOS attack.

[identity profile] blencathra.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Bloody hell! That's big bug!! Kind of friendly looking though. He looks like he should be called Harvey. :-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But we can all see him! ;-)

Mine was called Frankie because I had no idea of it was a girl or a boy.

[identity profile] entropy-house.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This news item posted Dec. 2, shows the largest weta ever photographed- it's eating A CARROT while standing on someone's hand. That is one cool insect.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/02/giant-weta-worlds-largest-insect_n_1126475.html?ref=green

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the same guy in my picture. :-)

[identity profile] entropy-house.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
He is IMPRESSIVE. Carrot-eating really got me to thinking of him as a horse. :^)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
My pipe-cleaner guys could ride him!

[identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com 2011-12-04 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Jiminy that's a big cricket! (Sorry couldn't resist that) :¬D

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2011-12-05 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
:-D

Apparently wetas are thought to be distantly related to Jerusalem crickets in the US, but I'm not sure how since there's a lot of ocean between them.