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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2010-07-24 10:06 pm

Stardrive (404)

At least Servalan isn't in this one. Actually there are some good parts to this ep, like Vila's intelligence and knowledgeability, Dayna's improvising, and the complete lack of a tinkly bit at the end. I could have done without the Space Rats though.

"Training manual rule one: never play with asteroids." Vila does know quite a bit about ships, doesn't he, what with his knowledgeable remarks about Wanderer class ships in "Rescue". He suggested the asteroid manoeuvre too, but also knows it won't work with the spin their chosen asteroid has. Hmmm. He also knows just how to fix that hull breach though he's unwilling to do it himself. "I don't like to work in main drive chambers" certainly seems to imply he's had quite a bit of shipboard experience. I don't think he was lying in "Volcano" about turning down the chance to be a Space Captain, and think he changed that subject very quickly in case the crew expected more of him.

Poor lad, I imagine him at 14 being teased by tough and seriously intimidating Space Rat women. Awwww. [comes over all protective and amused at the same time] And of course he gets stuck at the top of a cliff. He really didn't want to go and that always mucks up the teleport for him.

"Space: as an attributive noun amuses me (the hallucinations of Space Fatigue, anyone?) and here we have space choppers, space rats, and space trade routes. Punk was quite new back then, wasn't it? Also, is time distort 12 that fast? It seems to be around standard by 8 or so, well within the Liberator's cruising speeds, and that was never too fast to be seen by pursuit ships. I'm not sure what "in real time" means as it has to be FTL (and I prefer to ignore time dilation) which doesn't make a lot of sense because the pilots couldn't have reacted fast enough to shoot at a static target.

Ah yes, this is the season 4 Avon I disliked so much as a kid and still do. He uses Dayna and Vila as bait (bait gets eaten, after all, and they almost were).

What did that thing Vila found do? Did they cut some scenes out? Vila really isn't good at lying, but Dayna shows an unexpected talent for it. Also, for people who like speed, the Space Rats possess some very slow wheels. Someone on an afternoon stroll could catch that Space Buggy.

And now we get to the end. I have no idea why Plaxton took so long to make that connection--did she guess the drive might be online?--but Avon's decision is a pragmatic and logical one. It's just the way he says "Who?" so coldly that gets to me. The crew must have realised right then that they were just as expendable.

[identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a kid I thought the Space Rats were really cool. *lol*

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that was quick!

Lizardburger?

[identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Cheers! :D *chomps*

(yuck lizard burger LOL)

[identity profile] matildabj.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
At least Servalan isn't in this one.

I thought I was the only person who felt this way about Servalan.

In the novelisation this episode reads far better than it comes across on screen. Not one of my faves either, although it does have the blooper reel moment of Steven Pacey shoving Glynis Barber up a rockface with his hands firmly on her rear. :)

[identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
S4 Servalan was a lot less fun than earlier Servalan. My canonical Servalan wears white; nothing else is her.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I only dislike her in S4. They should never have brought her back... and back, and back.

I should read those novelisations again. They're interesting despite Hoyle making up what uncast characters looked like because they include the whole original script. Ha, yes, I remember that blooper.

[identity profile] hafren.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I do love Vila's memory of the Space Rats - "and the men were just as bad"

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too, so I had the women amuse themselves by terrifying him in one story. They were weirdly fond of him though; he was only 14 and almost a mascot to them.

[identity profile] samantha-vimes.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet I thought Avon's, "Who?" essentially meant-- "She died or we ALL died, including her! You're all thinking of me as a murderer, but I saved your lives. This is a horrible world and I always end up making the hard decisions for you, and then you want to moan about it."
And that hardness can be used to push aside guilt.

I'm sure she did know. There's a prickly sort of feeling near high voltage, and the look on her face when she made the connection-- that I still remember.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's obvious that it was her or all of them, and it was the right decision; I don't deny that. It's that Avon shows no regret whatsoever, instead expressing satisfaction at the speed, and then acting as though Plaxton hadn't mattered. Surely they all wonder how much they matter to him, and two of them already know Vila and Dayna don't count for much.

[identity profile] samantha-vimes.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think he makes a decision to shut down emotions that would give him problems coping. Heck, Plaxton was smart, cooperative; he was probably starting to look forward to having someone to talk tech with, etc. But...

it's hard to explain. In my experience, INTJs are actually EXTREMELY emotional. That's why they control their emotions, and control them hard. If they don't, the emotion controls them-- see Rumours of Death or Terminal for when Avon does what his feelings insist on. The INTJs in my life, we all wear masks of self-control, but when we take them off, we are more vulnerable than most people. The universe drives us to the brink of tears, but we can't afford to cry, so we laugh. (See Avon's weird timing of when to break out in a big grin or even laugh) There's no middle ground, instinctively. We seem emotionalless because we are afraid of our emotions.
He can't afford regret. Regret will eat him and his teammates alive. And even though it's obvious he made the right decision, the others won't respond rationally and comfort him; they will think of him as heartless even if he admits regret. Also, he'd feel like allowing his regret to show would be manipulating them, like Blake did. His sense of honor and ethics would make him believe he has to admit that no one is not expendible, so that the others are free to leave if they think their chances of survival are better without him.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wondered why Vila didn't leave--he'd have blended in better than the others--and have to wonder how much choice they ever got. They never went anywhere where anyone could safely leave, and they had no means of going off on their own. This being trapped with no hope is why I think Vila (Boucher aside) got so depressed and drunk later.

I'm INTP and yes, though I make decisions based on thinking, my emotions are very strong which is why I avoid tragedy (esp concerning animals), horror, and the news which encompasses both. I find it much easier to relate to Sheldon on "The Big Bang Theory" than Avon though, especially now he's out of his normal arena as geek and trying to be a rebel leader. It's not a role he fits and it makes him really unlikeable, and I do like early Avon. This is why I hardly ever write S4 Avon.

[identity profile] samantha-vimes.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Love the icon!
omg, yes, Sheldon sometimes says things I've already said irl-- like his criticism of "When one door closes, another opens."
Avon is way out of his element. He's slowly losing his ability to cope; it's not a fun season, it makes a good tragedy, but I avoid tragedies. (I've got fibromyalgia, too, so I physically ACHE from tension for hours after watching a tragedy.)

I'm probably babbling a little. vertigo from allergies is hitting my concentration skills.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Sheldon often says things I say or think. I yell YES! and punch the air. :-)

Because I know there's a character death coming up, Greg is watching the next few NCISs (I'm years behind) on his own.

[Edited to change icon since you liked the other one; I don't usually bother unless others do] Thanks; that was from a series of B7 Simpsons-style drawings I did once.
Edited 2010-07-25 03:09 (UTC)

[identity profile] hafren.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
As long as Cally was alive, Vila had someone he felt cared about him. On the Xenon base he had, for the first time in a long while, somewhere permanent and securish to call home, plus the wine, and by the time the rum was gone, so to speak, I think he felt he'd burned his boats.