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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2008-09-11 08:08 pm

Books

I've just finished Terry Pratchett's Men at Arms (one of my favourites so far) and have started the first Phryne Fisher novel, Cocaine Blues.

In the first I was disconcerted by Lady Ramkin's butler being called Willikins (I kept reading it as my own LJ name) and in the second delighted to find that someone on my flist wrote the introduction. Very cool!

Oh and I joined LibraryThing (as Vilakins) this week and loaded up most of my books but for all the art and children's ones. So many were bought at second-hand book fairs and shops (books are too expensive to buy new here) that it was very hard if not impossible to find the editions and covers for a lot of them. I'm going to add the library books I read and like because the recommendations feature seems to work well.

[identity profile] zoefruitcake.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
Seems I have a new friend on there now :0)

I need a few more sessions up in the loft to get mine on there

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
I've got one more shelf I need to get at yet; the rest are art, graphics, language books, and other stuff I won't add. Oh! I haven't added any of my Austens! I wonder where I've stashed them...

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
I love Men at Arms, too. I think his very best is Small Gods, but I love the gonne in MAA, and the detective mystery a la Discworld, and Vimes realising he's on the side of Authority.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm working my way through them in order. I love the trolls and dwarves in MAA and how Carrot is a "man of the city". Vimes is always wonderful. :-)

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! What's your handle on LT, still vilakins? I'm bragan there.

*clicks over to LT tab* Oh, hey, never mind, I see you already commented over there... Yay!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
It took me a while to find you, but I did via your blog. :-)

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's pretty easy to find from there.

And if your library is "pitiful" compared to mine, it only indicates that you are sensible and lack my expensive and space-eating addiction, so, hey, count it as a positive thing. :)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm amazed to find that I have as many books as I do: there are about 100 more I probably won't add because they're art, comic books, or prewar boys' and girls' own annuals I found at rummage sales. :-P There's also a whole shelf I haven't got to yet because I have stuff piled in front, plus a pile I just remembered. Another day.

I'm also concerned because there are books I know I have and haven't yet come across. :-P

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
They're sneaky things, books. I have mine all carefully organized and accessible (or I thought I did), and I was still coming across strays I hadn't cataloged a year later.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep finding ones I forgot I had (bought at a fair, probably) or ones that should be with others of their genre. I keep intending to sort them into genres, the DVDs too, so I can find stuff.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't bother sorting mine into genres (except for fiction, non-fiction, and the Doctor Who and Star Trek</I books.) The boundaries are too fuzzy. But I have all the fiction alphabetical by author, in hardback and paperback sections, and the non-fiction in a very loose sort of order by subject matter.

[identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
The City Watch books are possibly my favourites amongst all the Discworld novels, which is saying a lot. Sam Vimes is a maginificent creation (though I confess to finding Carrot rather tiresome and hard to believe in). Who else but Terry Pratchett could combine the fantasy, comedy and whodunnit genres and be brilliant at all three aspects?

But the best of the Discworld books are much more than just comedies and puzzles. I'm not sure if it's in MAA or one of the other City Watch books, where Vimes gets really angry about the death of some poor laundry woman as a side effect of a crime (phgrased vaguely to try to avoid spoilers), and it's heartbreaking and magnificent.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
I love what I've read of the City Watch books, and I also really like the witches. I'm reading in order though so I'll defer the pleasure of those till they come up again.

I thought Carrot was rather stupid (though likeable) in the first Watch book, but that he came into his own in this one: clever behind the honesty, and a creature of the city. I love Vimes inordinately though, and Vetinari too for that matter. I want them to meet up with Granny Weatherwax (but not Death, much as I enjoy his appearances).

Vimes has already shown that side of his nature in this book, spending most of his wages on the families of dead Watch members. I'll be interested in seeing how he does now he's rich, but I know he won't change.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Vimes inordinately though, and Vetinari too for that matter.

I adore Vetinari. He's one of my favourite characters of all time ("The Patrician didn't believe in unnecessary cruelty. FOOTNOTE While being bang alongside the idea of necessary cruelty, of course.")

Edited to demonstrate that I can, in fact, spell cruelty.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Vetinari, well, rules! :-) He and Vimes make an excellent team. My other favourite is Granny Weatherwax. Just as well she lives in the Ramtops because it spreads the awesomeness.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Granny Weatherwax is truly awesome, though I went off her a bit when it started to seem like nothing could ever defeat her. I think it was a wise decision of Pratchett's to move all the witchy stuff into the Tiffany Aching books, where he could continue to think about Headology but using characters less all-powerful than Granny.

Of all the witches, my heart actually belongs to Nanny Ogg ;-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Granny gave up a lot for power back when she was a girl, so I suppose it makes sense that she's strong. I have yet to read the Tiffany Aching books. I'm on 'Soul Music' now. :-)

I do love Nanny Ogg, Greebo, and even wet Magrat and her Verence. :-)

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Magrat is so amusingly wet.

I think Soul Music is possibly my least favourite of the Pratchetts. I'm just not that interested in music with rocks in it, so a lot of it fell flat for me. On the other hand, it's been so many years since I read it - and then only once - that perhaps I should dig it out and give it another go.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
And I did love Magrat the Warrior Queen in 'Lords and Ladies'.

I've only just started it, but it's introducing Susan so it can't be too bad. :-)

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Magrat the Warrior Queen was BRILLIANT.

Susan leaves me cold, so her presence is not a plus, to my mind!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of people on my flist like her, so I assumed she'd be interesting. I shall see. :-) After all, I've decided I'm not fond of Phryne Fisher, the rich, beautiful, talented Mary Sue with her cap of shiny black hair (which we get told about every few pages). I'm debating whether or not to say so in a post and get jumped on.

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, I don't even remember Phryne Fisher. Just shows what an impact she had on me.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry; another series altogether! Written by Kerry Greenwood and set in 1920s Melbourne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phryne_Fisher).

[identity profile] agent-anon.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, she sounds like the Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah. (Or yair as the author spells it.) She's rich, beautiful, talented, brave, extremely accomplished, and desired by almost all.

I'm a bit worried about saying what I think in another post since people I know obviously know the author. I also wasn't impressed with the writing (or the editing) either; paragraphing was sloppy, and changes of scene not always marked by a break in text which caused confusion at times.

I assume you're Azdak under an alias. :-)

[identity profile] azdak.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops - forgot to log out after uploading an icon for the Guessing challenge. I'd be useless as a spy!

[identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The witches books are also excellent, I agree. Granny Weatherwax is another maginificent creation. The witches books could also be said to include the Tiffany Aching books (three so far with one more imminent). They are excellent, so don't let them pass you by because they were nominally written for children.

I also like the books featuring Susan a lot. I think that the Rincewind ones tend to be the least good, even though Discworld began with him. Though good fun, they don't seem to have the same depth of characterisation or intricacy of plotting.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I read lots of children's books. They're a lot more inventive and fun than most of those for adults. I'll definitely check out the Tiffany Aching books.

I agree totally about Rincewind. He's funny (and a bit Vila-like) but the books are a lot lighter and have less punch. The ones with no regular characters can be very good (I enjoyed 'Pyramids', and it introduced the Assassins) but I do like reading about the characters I've come to love.

As for Susan, the last book I read with her in it was 'Mort', so she hasn't yet developed into the Susan Sto Helit people on my flist have mentioned.

[have just started 'Soul Music'] I realise now that I hadn't encountered Susan before. I was thinking of Ysabell. :-P

[identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
"Pyramids" is one of the few that I haven't read yet. I had a lot of catching up to do, as I didn't start reading the books until they had already been going for ten years or so.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
I only started last year!

[identity profile] the-summoning-d.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
Men at Arms is brilliant ^^ The City Watch books were the first Discworld books I ever read, and boy did they get me hooked.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the Watch and the Witch (Oh look, only a one-vowel difference!) books the best, but I am working through them in order anyway, interspersed with other books, (like SF and pre-war crime). Because if I finish too soon, I'll be bereft with no more to look forward to.

[identity profile] san-valentine.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Although I'm not a big Prachett fan, I had to go see Paul Darrow playing Vimes in a stage adaptation of 'Guards ! Guards !'. The staging was very well done, and the cast were clearly all having fun. And seeing Avon in a nightgown and fluffy bunny slippers was priceless !

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
!!! I can't see Vimes in those, unless Lady Ramkin did it with enforced hospitality. PD would be good in the role though.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and for the record, I pretty much agree with every single thing you've said about Discworld. :)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! :-)

I can't believe I took so long to get round to them, but I found those cartoon covers so offensive, I assumed they were full of smutty sexism. I like the elegant new black ones.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you know the old saying about books and covers... :)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
[headdesk] Still, I'm enjoying them so much now, when I need that sort of humour with bite. So it's all good.

[identity profile] jaxomsride.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
The only Discworld book I haven't liked so far is fifth Elephant. It just doesn't seem to be on a par with his other books.
I love Vetinari and all the characters in the City Watch, The Witches and of course Greebo! I also like Death and Susan.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I like all of those too; in fact they're my favourites along with Verence. I have yet to read 'Fifth Elephant'. I think the two books I liked the least so far are 'Eric' and 'Moving Pictures' though it did introduce Gaspode the Wonder Dog. :-)
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2008-09-12 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I've hardly made a dent in my LibraryThing list; I did most of one bookcase when I first joined up, and imported all the books I'd got through Amazon, but since then I've just been adding them as I (re)read them. I guess I should make another effort.

I got turned off Discworld when someone gave me Mort as an introduction to the series; it bored me (even though I like DEATH as a character, Mort himself didn't keep my interest). But then someone loaned me "Guards! Guards!" and I was... not quite hooked, but I'm certainly intending to read more, every now and then; just the Guards books, that will be enough. Though I've also read the first Tiffany Aching book, and the other two are in my "to read" list.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
You can import purchases? I should try that because I still haven't done all of my books.

I liked 'Mort', but I'd already been introduced to Death and Susan. I'd say give it another go and read the ones with the Witches or the Guards AKA Watch in them; they're wonderful. The Wiki entry (which I've been working from) tells you which group of characters are in each and what the theme is.

Storylines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#Storylines)
Novels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#Novels)

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for friending me on BookMooch! I was looking at your wishlist and saw Sylvia Engdahl's Children of the Star, and thought you might like to know it's just been released as an ebook: see here (http://www.sylviaengdahl.com/).

D'OH! Wrong friend in New Zealand! Sorry!

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I was a bit puzzled. :-) BTW You come top of my matches with 28 books in common with me (so I will check it out). That's how I saw that you and [livejournal.com profile] kerravonsen (halfway down) were on this thing.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I saw the first three letters of Other New Zealand friend's name and read it as you! Then spent the day puzzling why her friending notification hadn't come through! Too much DS9 melts your brain.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Someone here has a name starting with vil? That's fairly unusual.

I sometimes mistake people because of their icons. :-P

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
Starting 'nic'. I do the icon thing too!