Horizon (204)
Space politics! Plus space crises and Space Security!
And space stress
Blake has a headache, Vila has stomach cramps, and Avon has back pain. What about Gan, Jenna, and Cally? Are they handling it better? Did the poor things get a holiday after this?
It's a small galaxy
Space is big. Really big. How on earth did they just happen to encounter the freighter (which seems to be the same model as the London)? Does Zen get lonely?
Sudden darts
Sorry, Vila, but I laughed when you went "Ergh!" and fell down because that bit's so funny in the Monty Python meets B7 vid. It took two to fell Gan. Go, Gan (but not for much longer). :-(
Costumes
Vila was wearing a very nice understated yellow or deep cream shirt; such a pity he loses it on Horizon. Not that I'm complaining about seeing him and Blake without their shirts. ;-) Cally obviously ditches hers after it got dirty (and not before time) but Jenna's appears again in the next ep. I can't believe the gauze survived the mine; she must have had more, and either got the monopasium out of the white bodysuit or had another one.
Ro and Selma's costumes at the end get my vote for best though. They're exotic and Aztec-looking and much more suited to the characters than Coser and Rashel's were.
Ro
I don't hold much hope for the inhabitants of Silmareno / Horizon. Ro might stand up to the Kommissar at the end and shoot him, but he really only does so because he hurt Selma and is revealed to have killed his father. Until then though, he was not very bothered by the Federation turning his people into slaves with very short life-spans, or even Selma being one of them, really. I'm also a little puzzled that he didn’t go back to the original name for the planet since in many ways he has returned to the past.
Selma
I think she'll be the power behind the throne; the true ruler.. She's tougher and more principled than Ro, and while it looks arrogant when she stalks through the slaves to get the first helping of food, she does give it to Jenna. I hope she has more empathy with the people than Ro, though that mightn't be hard.
Cally
Cally can't read non-telepathic minds according to 'Time Squad'; so perhaps the Kommissar is slightly telepathic. But then, Cally's backstory is a total mess that can't be fixed.
I enjoyed this ep very much: it has excellent guest characters and an interesting plot.

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The costumes for Ro and Selma at the end were lovely, indeed.
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Dunno about Gan, but Jenna and Cally lack the primary qualification for making a fuss about minor ailments:)
I think Selma will be the power on the throne; she'll depose Ro in short order, with no argument from his exhausted subjects.
There do seem to be people who have an uneasy reaction to Cally, as if they sense something about her, so I think you could be right re the Kommissar.
What do you make of how unnecessarily nasty Blake is to Avon in some of this? I don't think a headache excuses it.
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I kind of suspect that when Blake says to Jenna, "Avon might run" he means for Avon to overhear it. I wonder if it's meant to be a short sharp shock--a bit of "All right, if you're going to go on about how you'll abandon us all the first chance you get, then see how it feels not to be trusted." Taking Jenna with him doesn't really make sense as a plan to stop Avon from running--presumably Blake knows, at this point, that Jenna would just refuse to pilot for him, and also that the Liberator can basically pilot itself--so I think Blake's behavior is more emotional than rational. And anyway, I think Blake does trust Avon, really. So it's an attempt (perhaps not fully conscious on Blake's part) at punishing Avon for his behavior, as much as anything.
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This is one of the few episodes that really has a political edge to it, and I think it's a rather remarkable portrayal of the colonialist dynamic. We get the exploitation of a colony for raw materials, the systematic dismissal of its culture as "primitive" and "savage," the dilemma of the educated native elite, and the question of whether the anti-colonial struggle should be about returning to the past. The bit at the end when Ro say "we can't return to the past" actually makes me very happy, as it avoids the false dichotomy of colonialism vs. primitivism. I admit that Ro's return to his native costume and his use of the blowgun dart do look very much like an attempt to resurrect the past, but the dialogue complicates that in an interesting way.
On the other hand, the political plot was weakened by the ways it was personalized. I think you're right that Ro doesn't give a damn about his people, really. His decision to resist is based entirely on what was done to his father and to Selma. And even Selma isn't exactly a revolutionary--the first thing she says is "I'm not one of these people," meaning the other Silmarenans working in the mines.
I also could have done without the improbable coincidence of Blake having met Ro's BFF on the London (and remembering every detail of their conversation). Besides straining credulity, it's the beginning of the over-personalization; I liked Blake's earlier, more political arguments better.
Other points:
Does Cally actually read the Kommissar's mind? Didn't she get that information about Ro's father from Orac?
I notice that, despite the tearing hurry they're supposedly in towards the end because the Federation pursuit ships are coming, Blake takes time to have a wash and put on a clean shirt before teleporting back to the planet.
I also notice that Avon's back pain is not sufficient to convince him to wear sensible shoes instead of those thigh-high boots. (Avon, maybe your back hurts because you keep wearing high heels? They're not good for the spine, you know.)
Standing up for Allan Prior
I've nothing to say for Animals but even less for Nation's worst, Mission to Destiny, and Holmes' fiasco Orbit. (And as for Ultraworld...) Everyone gets to screw up once, (or twice in Ben Steed's case). And Prior's other two, Hostage and Volcano, are serious examinations of moral questions plus a lot of good character interaction (and in Hostage, silver suits). Not, of course, that Prior needs any other justification for living than having fathered the Divine Maddy, but I think he's a better B7 writer than he gets credit for.
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I don't have any particular wish to slag off any B7 writers, except Ben Steed. I was just genuinely surprised when I checked, just now, and found that Prior had written an episode I think is extremely good, an episode I really don't like ("The Keeper"), and the universally reviled "Animals." Certainly I agree that "Hostage" and "Volcano" are good eps. I'm still too much of a B7 newbie to have any stake in the writer wars.
having fathered the Divine Maddy
Eh? Enlighten me?
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Twice? Three times, surely. [stab]
'The Keeper' is the ep in which Greg realised how much he liked Vila. He loves Vila's "Ah, don't leave me here, at least leave me a torch. I don't like the dark. I like to see what I'm scared of." :-)
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Fiasco? I'm curious, as "Orbit" is one of my very favorite episodes, and I think is remarkably well written, brillantly executed and marvelously acted. It packs an amazing punch, really explains Avon's shattering state of mind, and perfectly sets the scene for "Blake." So what part is a fiasco?
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I do also wonder why, when Ben Steed is (rightly) slated for misogyny, Holmes gets away with his homophobia, both here and in Gambit.
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too elliptical - I meant, of course, to say he doesn't know about the circs in which Egrorian really left, and his political ambitions.
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Vila is not stupid, dammit.
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But I also feel like I may be over-reading and it's just another case of Evil Poofters.
The homophobia in "Orbit" is in my view much clearer, since Egrorian's corruption is very sexualized. He tortures poor Pinder and basically comes off as a vicious old pervert.
I love B7 enormously, but when I think about the fact that all five of the queer-coded characters who appear (Krantor and Toise, Egrorian and Pinder, and Dorian [coded queer, I think, because of the Wilde references and the way he flirts with Avon]) are villains of some type.
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Very strange switch for Avon's character considering not that long ago in Headhunter, he deliberately made a decision (against ORAC's advice) which endangered his own life in order to save Vila and Tarrant.
Did you notice how the director stressed how Avon and Vila had become in synch by the time of this Orbit episode? Their movements match each other, they even walk in synch with each other. This was a deliberate direction by the director. It is in keeping with how their relationship has developed over the course of S3 and up to this point in S4.
Of course this just makes what happens later really sick, and the director deliberately set us up.
Good drama? More like sick drama, setting us up like that, building up a kind of, if not friendship, at least they were close enough to be in synch with each other. And then kicking us in the teeth.
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Was it really? That's fascinating. I haven't seen that ep for a while but I do remember them walking in step.
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Sorry if this is off topic.
It's interesting to see that I am not alone in thinking Orbit was a fiasco. For one, I think it's a slap in the face to fans, destroying the friendship Avon and Vila had. I suspect it was written for shock value, a sort of hey: let's see Avon act psycho.
As for Hafren's observation, "He takes a gun he knows he can't do anything useful with, because the author is going to need it for the plot later." Well said.
As for the opinion that it set the stage for "Blake" I don't quite agree. In "Orbit", Avon tried to kill Vila to save himself. In "Blake," Avon kills Blake because he thinks Blake has betrayed him. I'd say Rumours of Death set the stage for "Blake" more than Orbit did.
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I'd say Rumours of Death set the stage for "Blake" more than Orbit did.
And the betrayals by Tynus and Keiller, two 'old friends'.
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Very much so! At a con I once heard Chris Boucher, who wrote both eps, complain about the way PD pronounced the line "have you betrayed me?" PD stressed both "you" and "me". CB felt he should have stressed only "you", on the ground that Avon expects to be betrayed by everyone else, just not by Blake. As it happens, I think that for once you can justify PD's interpretation, because it goes to the special relationship between them (whether or not one thinks it slashy) and ties up with Tarrant's fascinating remark "even you". But CB's reaction shows how he was seeing it, and definitely harks back to RoD.
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Avon is equally shockingly out of character in Gambit, where his trip down to the planet with Vila and Orac is just bizarre. But, just like Orbit, it's all excused because Avon and Vila get some good scenes and dialogue together.
I do also wonder why, when Ben Steed is (rightly) slated for misogyny, Holmes gets away with his homophobia, both here and in Gambit.
I think that the only reason no one complains about sexism in the Holmes episodes too is that his brand involves never giving the women any lines at all. All the female crew members are practically invisible, and as a B7 writer, Holmes writes a cracking Doctor Who episode. Watching Jenna stand around in Killer and say 'But
DoctorBlake, I don't understand space flight! Please, tell me all about it!' makes me sad.Also, because he actually throws the odd bit of notional science fiction into the script it's much, much more painfully obvious that he knows nothing about science than with most of the B7 writers. Or he's just lazy about it. Either way, every time I have to sit there and watch them see a planet light years away blow up on screen in Orbit, I want to reach through the TV and slap Holmes silly.
In fact, I dislike the shoddy construction of the whole of Orbit, with the exception of Avon hunting Vila around the ship which I do still enjoy tremendously. So I guess the one scene of good Avon-Vila interaction does at least help :-)
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the political plot was weakened by the ways it was personalized
Excellent point! And yeah, it's too much of a coincidence that Ro's friend was on the London. But then so was encountering the freighter in the hugeness of space.
Didn't she get that information about Ro's father from Orac?
Hmm. I don't see how. Avon gives her a card with data on it and she immediately teleports to take it to Blake. Neither of them would have had the opportunity to read it.
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Doesn't she come in carrying it and then hand it to Avon? I guess I'd assumed she'd been having a look at it.
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Sorry about the deleted comment; it was meant for someone else. :-P
Just had an awful thought....
Do you think Blake could have been making it up on the spur of the moment - for the best possible reason, of course? I wouldn't put it past him.
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Well, the ship's about to be attacked, so I think it's understandable that Vila would just put on a shirt and run for his position on the flight deck. I think it's weirder that Blake took the time to wash up.
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I'm surprised that they never went back to Horizon, it was the only place where anybody ever *was* glad to see them.
It would get lonely floating around on that huge ship with no one but Orac and Zen to talk to. I bet the first person Avon would encounter would be Rodney McKay. And then he'd realize that Blake was King Log and now he had King Stork.
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royallypresidentially on Lindor, and on Destiny. After all, they saved the entire planet in the latter case.Rodney McKay strikes me as a mixture of Avon and Vila actually: towering intellectual arrogance and social awkwardness mixed with honest admission of fear, hypochondria, and lack of self-esteem apart from his special skills. I'd like to see those two together; pity about the millennium or so separating them.
Damn, I meant to make that Rodney icon.
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And Albian, though that comes later.
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