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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2005-11-23 09:50 am

Happy happy joy joy

Bah. I'm not getting any LJ notifies and LJ has dorked at least one of my icons, replacing it with two bald strangers hugging each other. I deleted it. Is anyone else having trouble?

Humbug. I don't rate an invitation to the office Christmas party though contractors directly paid by the company do.

Greg isn't getting that trip to Germany either, at least this year. Surprise, surprise. He's going to Singapore for 10 days next week instead to do the work there. I'd go too and spend some time in Malaysia but the notice is too short to get off work and the person I work most with is away in the UK for 5 weeks starting about that time. Sigh. I'm just hoping for a holiday up north early next year as we totally missed out this year.

Oh, well. The sun is shining outside. It's so beautiful, I'll have to resist the lure of my book and go for a walk at lunchtime.

[identity profile] izhilzha.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, some of my notifications haven't come through--notably any comments people posted, um, sometime in the past 12 hours or so. :-P It seems to have fixed itself now, but we shall see.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yours is the first one I've had in at least 24 hours. I hope it's OK now as I hate not responding to comments.

[identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh.

You shouldn't delete the icons. Everyone else is having problems with them too, but they will eventually revert back to your normal ones... LJ has physically moved and here (http://www.livejournal.com/community/lj_maintenance/108728.html) is the explanation for the pic misery... damn it, I've done some spiffy icons but can't upload them properly/get them to show properly on LJ's server. The Cally-rage manip I did I had to post to my webdump instead, plus some other stuff.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That explains why they're slow loading, which I can understand and accept, but not why the last one I uploaded changed to something else everywhere it appears. It doesn't matter; I was thinking of redoing the text on that one now I have the GIMP.

[identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Further down on the page, in comments, they explain that the outgoing emails have been slow as well.

And yay for GIMP!:)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have it? A lot is intuitive, but I beat my head against the wall sometimes trying to do things which I can do simply in PSE2. I need to experiment more.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
If you have any questions, just ask. Also, look on the gimp website, I'm sure they have a bunch of (links to) tutorials there.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
I have. They don't tell me simple things like how to put a border round an icon (in PSE I just set the BG colour and resize the canvas). How do you do that, and also put a border round text / a layer? And distort a layer (e.g. make text fit the width of an icon)? This is going to take so long to pick up the simple skills let alone the ones you have.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
They don't tell me simple things like how to put a border round an icon (in PSE I just set the BG colour and resize the canvas).

I'm sure that there's more than one way to do it, depending on how you want to treat your image.
Here's one: say you just want a 1-pixel border around the icon, what I usually do is this:

1. Select -> all
2. Select -> shrink (and tell it to shrink by 1)
3. Select -> invert (giving a 1-pixel selection all around the edge of the image)
4. bucket fill the selection (I usually do this in a new, transparent layer)

Another way of doing it would be this:

1. Script-fu -> Decor -> add border

This gives you a bevelled border of a given colour and thickness around the edge of the image. This command adds the border around the image so that the whole image gets bigger, which is why I don't tend to use it for icons, since I'm usually already working at 100x100.

There's also
Script-fu -> Decor -> fuzzy border
which gives you a fuzzy border; this one doesn't grow the image, it puts the fuzzy border over the existing image. One nice thing about this command is that it gives you the option to (a) work on a copy of your image and (b) flatten or not flatten the image. I like to have it work on a copy and not flatten the image, then if I like the border, I just copy it back over to the original image (just a level of paranoia I suppose).

The way I got my "slightly bevelled" look in the bear icon I made for [livejournal.com profile] watervole was that I made a fuzzy border, then I set that layer to preserve transparency, then I did a linear gradient from white to black from one corner to the diagonally opposite one. I did some more tweaks besides that, but that was the general idea.

If you want to just "set the BG colour and resize the canvas", a similar method of doing that in Gimp would be

1. set the BG colour (to what you want)
2. Image -> Canvas Size

and change the size there to make the image size larger. However, what Gimp does by default (and I think it's reasonable) is that if the image size has been made larger, the extra background stuff is transparent. All the layers still remain at the old image size, unless you explicitly do

3. Layer -> Layer to Image Size

Which means, to get a new coloured border, you do that to the bottom layer, which will expand that layer with the new background colour in the "grown" bits.
Which I didn't actually know until just now, when I tried it.

and also put a border round text / a layer

There's more than one way to do it...

One can select something (if I want to select text, I usually use select-by-colour, since the text will be the only thing of that colour in that text layer). Generally it's a good idea to have the border in a new, separate layer (so you can turn it on and off and decide if you really want it, as well as being able to do effects on it), and of course make it a transparent layer.

I can think of two things one could do after that;

Select -> Border
(which turns the selection into a border)

or

Select -> Grow
which enables you to do a bucket fill in the new border layer, and then do stuff to said border. This is the way I usually do borders around text. Often I do a
Filters -> Blur -> Gaussian Blur
on the border layer, to make a fuzzy border around things.
Note the text in my Giles icon, the text is black, but has a white fuzzy border around it. Wheras in my TARDIS icon, the text has a non-fuzzy border around it.

This is also the classic method of making shadows. The only difference between a shadow, and a fuzzy border made this way is that with a shadow, you then use the Move tool to move the layer to the right and down in order to make it look like a shadow. Which you will also see in the Giles icon, if you look carefully, on the edges of the "photo". It's more clear in my Anachronism icon, where there's more shadows.

And distort a layer (e.g. make text fit the width of an icon)?

Well... if you want to make text fit the width of an icon, it's a far better idea to just change the font-size of the text, surely?
Or else I'm misunderstanding what it is you're wanting to do.

However, if you want to enlarge or shrink a layer, you can use
Layer -> Scale Layer

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for this! I shall bookmark it.

Well... if you want to make text fit the width of an icon, it's a far better idea to just change the font-size of the text, surely?

I was trying to add text to an icon to fit across the bottom, and 8 was too small and 9 too wide. I suppose I could experiment with fonts but I wanted that one. [pout] Maybe I could do it in the big image then rescale. I'll try tonight.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The downside of rescaling text is that it never looks as good as if you're doing it with the straight font itself; me I generally prefer experimenting with fonts.
However if you are going to rescale the font... I'm not sure which level of rescaling is better, actually.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
This is going to take so long to pick up the simple skills let alone the ones you have.

I think I had it easier because I had less to unlearn. The main image program I used before The Gimp was Micrografx Picture Publisher, and I'm not sure that it even had layers (at that time, anyway).

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I've used macromedia Fireworks for work but it was close enough to PSE to work out how to do things.

[identity profile] snowgrouse.livejournal.com 2005-12-08 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't cope with more than Paint Shop Pro, Photoshop and Imageready on one computer, so don't have GIMP, no.

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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-22 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My work discriminates against unattached people; only spouses, partners and b/g-friends are allowed to come to the Christmas party. Not friends.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
They actually say that? I don't think most places care whom you take with you; it's just 'and partner'. I took a flatmate to a work party once, though it probably fuelled some rumours.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I asked. They said no. Perhaps I shouldn't have asked, but I hate lying.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Partner can be bridge or sports or in-crime partner. ;-) You should claim discrimination.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Coz I really don't see what their problem is.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
(sigh) Neither do I, but I don't want to make a fuss. I have to work with these people.

[identity profile] hafren.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Well they couldn't really object if you didn't go, having made it so difficult, could they?
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
That would be cutting off my nose to spite my face. We do have nice Christmas parties at my work; that's half the reason I'd like to share the experience with a friend.

[identity profile] hafren.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see! I should not assume that everyone's reaction to parties, especially the works party, is "how do I get out of it?"....
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
My boss is a gourmet. We get a full sit-down dinner at a leading restaurant; the food is always delicious. And if I manage to sit next to the right dinner companions, the conversation is also excellent. If I don't, then the conversation is boring leading to overindulgently tipsy... which is why I try to sit next to my favourite people. But it would be nicer if I had a friend of my own too.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting enough notifies to keep thinking things are back to normal, and then I stumble across entries where people have replied to me but I received nothing. So if I haven't replied to anything I should have done I hope no one's offended. I can see most userpics now, but [livejournal.com profile] redstarrobot's has been consistently absent for two or three days.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting about 1 out of 10, and your comment didn't spawn one. I keep going to look at posts where I've commented to see if I have replies.

[identity profile] mistraltoes.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you are certainly invited to my Christmas party, but as it's on the wrong side of the world, I know that's not much consolation. :(

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, aren't you sweet? [looks on the bright side] I should be glad I won't be tempted to eat unhealthy food and drink too much, and besides I heard the last Christmas party this conpany threw had people hanging from the ceiling on sheets. No, I don't know why either.
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[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-11-23 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, the silliest thing I can recall from one of our work Christmas party was the occassion when people were inhaling the helium from these helium balloons... Hmmm, now that I think of it, we haven't had balloons since... 8-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-23 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, we did that once at a work party. :-P It was silly fun.

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-11-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's a shame you're not getting an invite to the office Xmas party - I've been a temp at Xmas time myself and I know how it feels when you're excluded...because of company rules of course...

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-11-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't mind so much if people didn't talk about it in front of me. :-(

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's even worse, especially when the people don't realise they're been insensitive...

Are you still working in the city area - I was thinking it would be nice to catch up and have lunch with you before Christmas. :-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
Argh! Just got a notify for this (old ones are slowly coming through). And yes, I'd love to meet you for lunch! My contract finishes at Christmas anyway so that would be great.

Where do you suggest? Do you know any good places? There are quite a few interesting-looking ones on Khyber Pass and I heard the pub (Cock and Bull) is good.

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
No worries - I'd only just posted this a little while ago. :-) The Cock & Bull sounds good to me - what day would be good for you? (I'm flexible)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Me too! Any day when it's not raining! And yes, that's hard to predict. :-P This week or next before it gets too crazy? Tomorrow or Friday even, if the weather doesn't turn bad?

I thought it might be an old post because I'm getting lots of them right now.

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
How about this Friday - I'm free then... :-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
OK! I can bring my lunch if it looks dicey and have it for dinner if necessary. Cool! :-D

12? 12:30? I guess if the pub's full (being Friday) we can easily find somewhere else.

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-12-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
How about I meet you outside the C & B just after 12.30 tomorrow? :-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-12-08 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
OK, unless it's raining. What's your phone number? Mine's 025 850 851.

[identity profile] imhilien.livejournal.com 2005-12-08 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, gotta watch that weather...my number is 021 129 9859. See you tomorrow. :-)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-12-08 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! :-D