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Nico ([personal profile] vilakins) wrote2004-11-14 05:32 pm
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Homonyms

LJ has put up a resource page explaining common homonyms which are easily confused by some people. This is a very good thing; it's clear, funny, and Quizilla should use something similar (tho I suspect they're polisy is too have as many mis-takes as posible inn each quiz).

I'm puzzled though -- 'our' and 'are' are homonyms? Not where I come from.

[identity profile] astrogirl2.livejournal.com 2004-11-13 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
They are in my dialect. They both sound like "arr."

[identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com 2004-11-13 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not in mine in theory, but often are in practice. (I suspect mine are a bit more precise than most, a lot of the time, and even I slip, because I could definitely read their examples that way.)

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2004-11-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
In mine they're close to what's heard on B7. 'Are' is 'ah' unless followed by a vowel (as in "Are all of them going?") when it's 'arr'. The closest I can get to 'Our' is 'ow-ah' but not that obvious.

[identity profile] mistraltoes.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Where I live they're more like 'arr' and 'owr'.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Think they should put in "of" and "'ve".

[identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
That was the drawback they found with ITA (initial teaching alphabet) thirty years ago. The idea was one symbol = one sound would make it easier for children to learn to read. Regional accents confused the whole thing, they assumed barth and garahge when half the country says bath(short a sound) and garidge. And so on through many other sounds. Then you had the transition to standard spelling in real books. It dropped out of use quite quickly for an educational initiative".

[identity profile] hafren.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Shame they can't spell "possession".

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
I can imagine! I say garage as garahge but with both syllables equal; there are three pronunciations of it here. And I note you give bath as 'barth' but one can only do that where people don't pronounce that sort of R.

Sigh. Pity English isn't phonetic like German and Italian.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
Eep! I didn't notice that! They should've used their own spellchecker.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes.

[identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I should have said bahth. I'm a Black Country wench, we say bath and garidge.

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Where I come from, "been" and "bin" are homonyms, which of course is not true everywhere. And a lot of the things that Shakespeare thought rhymed, no longer do from where I'm sitting.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard Shakespeare read in what they think was the Elizabethan pronunciation. One of the things I remember was words like 'family' rhyming with 'lie'. And that it flowed so beautifully.