vilakins | Lost season finale

I have just watched Lost's double-episode season finale.

First up the island travels in "space and time"! And time-travelling bunnies! I wish we'd seen the rest of that tape.

I also have to say how much I enjoy watching Ben, though I don't like the cold-hearted bastard. And who knew that moving the island needed a big wheel. How does he steer?

I hope that's Desmond's story over and Ben doesn't kill Penny like Widmore presumably did with Sayid's Nadia. Or Widmore decide to kill of Desmond. Knowing this show, I'd say there's a fair chance of either. And BTW, was that Widmore in 'Indiana Jones' with the FBI agents?

So Charlotte's from the island. She's too young to be Ben's Annie, but I do wonder if that woman Desmond encountered in London is her. Was she named? I really like Charlotte and Miles isn't creeping me out as much as he did.

It occurs to me that Jin may not be dead. The freighter was in sight of land and there were life jackets. They could bring him back if they wanted to. I'm not sure what Sun's up to, but I like it. Wow, she's changed so much from the brow-beaten wife in S1; you go, girl.

I wonder who was after Hurley and why, and where Sayid took him. To Ben perhaps?

And now. I am devastated that they killed Locke. Even if he's walking dead in the future, that won't be our Locke, will it, but more a mouthpiece of the island. [mourns Locke] Look, he's had his organs removed and embalming fluid pumped into his veins so it's not exactly an easy cure for the island. Unless he becomes immortal like Alpert. [feels slightly hopeful] And anyway, I thought the guy in the coffin left a son which was why I thought it was Michael.

And now we have to wait. :-( I had no idea when I started watching that this series would be as good as it is, especially this last season. OTOH will it be the same without the Locke we know?

Oh and the numbers: Locke died at 4 and Sayid shot the guy outside the mental home at 8:15. Were there others?

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There's a lot of competition, but I think, "If you mean time travelling bunnies, then yes" may be my favorite Ben line yet. It's his delivery. It's always his delivery. Michael Emerson is just so freakin' brilliant.

I agree that Jin could possibly have made it off the boat before it blew, and I'm sure he's a good swimmer, but could he have made it back to the island before it disappeared? I'm not so sure... I'd be incredibly happy if he turned out not to be dead, though. But if he was alive on the island, and Locke was in touch with people, wouldn't he have let Sun know?

As far as Locke goes, as I've just said elsewhere, I don't think it pays to underestimate the limits of what's possible on that island. I'm not counting him out, not by a long shot.

I may have to get a Ben icon.

Jin would have been sucked under when the ship went down, but if he had a life jacket, he might have surfaced. But yeah, he was quite a way out.

Hmm. Locke saw Jack and Kate a month before he died, and that's as far forward as we go. I'm not sure when Sun was in London, but it could have been before Locke left the island.

I'm still feeling bereft though. :-(

Greg, Lost fan that he is, has even downloaded this and watched in Bulgaria. We'll probably have an early-morning Skype about it.

There's a lot of competition, but I think, "If you mean time travelling bunnies, then yes" may be my favorite Ben line yet.

They're not just cute, you know, like everyone supposes. They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses.

But if [Jin] was alive on the island, and Locke was in touch with people, wouldn't he have let Sun know?

You're assuming a.) Locke knew Jin survived, b.) Locke was in contact with Sun, and c.) wanted her to know that Jin was alive.

My guess is that he is alive, but none of the main characters know it, and it'll be a big reveal toward the end of season 5.

As for him getting back to the island, we know that Faraday was in a boat heading toward the freighter when the island disappeared, and the Oceanic 6 saw no sign of him afterward. Presumably he disappeared along with the island and went to the same destination. If the chopper's being left behind was due to its vertical distance from the island as opposed to its horizontal distance, it's quite possible that the freighter wreckage - and anyone nearby - got transported too.

My god, that's what's behind the mysteries of the Island! It must be bunnies!

I was figuring that: a) if Locke was the new Priest-King of the Island, he'd make it his business to know stuff like that, much the way Ben did, b) if Locke could contact the others, he could as easily contact Sun if he wanted to, and c) he'd tell her out of kindness, because it's something she ought to know. But you're right, those are some pretty big "if"s. Especially c, the more I think about it, because he might very well not have wanted Jin to leave, or not have wanted Sun to come back, for some reason or other.

Another thought: when Ben changed into his cold-weather gear, I thought, "Aha! Hurt arm, right clothes, steam from being icy: this is when the island throws him into the Sahara." I was still puzzled though that Ben knew about Nadia's killer, but I suppose there's elapsed time between his arrival and Nadia's funeral, but that's still fast work to get info from the US like that. Odd.

Yep, I think it's pretty clear that's exactly what happened there, because he does even have the same wound on his arm. This is one of those things I really like about the finale; it ties together the "real-time" story and all the flash-forwards very nicely, in a way that was clearly well planned out.

Did they actually give a time reference for when Nadia's funeral was? If not, then I don't see any reason not to assume a sufficient amount of elapsed time there. And in any case, dude, this is Ben we're talking about. Getting info is something he's really damned good at. :)

I'm pretty sure he sees Sayid on TV just after he arrives. Yep, just as he's being shown to his room. Sayid's saying he just wants to bury his wife in peace so there can't be much time between then and the funeral.

Oh, you're right! I'd forgotten that! Well, he's just working really fast then, I guess.

I'm a bit torn about Desmond. I'm entirely relieved that it wasn't him in the coffin, since I figured that's what they were building towards, and I appreciate that he got a happy ending... but I think I'd also like to see more of him. Ben swearing a vendetta against Penny makes me think we haven't seen the last of them, if only in flashbacks.

Yep, that was Widmore in Crystal Skull, alongside the Janitor from Scrubs.

Apparent age means nothing when it comes to inhabitants of the island; just ask Richard Alpert. Charlotte's abilities with language definitely suggest someone who's quite a bit older than they look. Although I do agree that it's unlikely that she's the Annie that Ben knew.

Watching the extended version of the previous episode, I'm gratified to know who the original 8 that survived the crash were, but I'm baffled as to why they chose specifically Charlie, Boone, and Libby.

Yes, I think we haven't seen the last of Desmond. Someone said the actor who plays Penny isn't very available so they could be working towards that. Poor Desmond.

Damn, I missed the janitor! Too busy looking at Widmore. I like the janitor.

Well, Ben seems to have aged normally. We don't really know who or what Alpert is yet; perhaps Locke will become something like that, or take over from Christian Shepherd. I just hope we get as much Locke as before and he's as dynamic. He's a favourite of mine along with Hurley.

What do you mean by the original 8? I'm don't know anything about that, or what you mean about those three dead people. I am intrigued.

In the "Kate gets put on trial" episode, the prosecution gave a potted history of the crash in which they said that 8 people survived the crash itself, but only 6 made it back to civilization.

In the extended episode, during the press conference, Jack claimed that Boone, Libby, and Charlie survived the crash, but died on the island.

Ah, gotcha! And the baby didn't exist then so it was 8. I have no idea how anyone accepted Kate's story abut Aaron though; he's far too old to be hers.

I didn't know there was an extended episode. :-(

Perhaps they chose those three as a sort of memorial to them. Charlie I certainly get because of how he gave his life, Libby because of Hurley who loved her, but I have no idea why Boone. It's Locke who'd feel guilty about him.

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